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This past Spring, Endless Thread released a multi-part series called Madness: The Secret Mission for Mind Control and the People Who Paid the Price. If you missed it, you can find all five parts here.

"Madness" tells the story of a powerful doctor who conducted disturbing, CIA-funded mind-control experiments on patients at a prestigious psychiatric hospital in Montreal. And now, there's another show offering fresh perspective on the same topic. It's called Brainwashed, and it's a new series from CBC Podcasts. You can listen to that show here.

We recently talked to the host of "Brainwashed," Michelle Shepherd, as a bonus postmortem episode. We wanted to compare notes with another reporter who has gone deep on this story and swap takeaways. Take a listen...

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Creators Of WBUR's 'Madness' Series Talk To Host Of CBC's 'Brainwashed' - WBUR